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Will Obama Gun Control Proposals Make Carmichael and Fair Oaks Safer?

Tell us what needs to change to really make a difference.

As the national debate surrounding gun control continues, so does the epidemic of shootings.

What can be done to keep weapons—whether legal or illegal—out of the hands those who would use them to harm others? Tell us in comments.

Three horrific incidents of gun violence in February alone claimed multiple lives throughout the state.

A alleged gunman whose father described him as a “ticking time bomb” opened fire on two Santa Cruz Police officers Feb. 26, killing both the detectives who had gone to Jeremy Goulet’s home to interview him on a misdemeanor sexual assault accusation.

Goulet killed Police Det. Sgt. Loran "Butch" Baker and Det. Elizabeth Butler using a .45-caliber gun that was registered to him, according to Santa Cruz County Sheriff Phil Wowak. He died during a shootout with police.

Goulet, 35, had a history of sex-related arrests, including a rape arrest in the state of Hawaii, Wowak said.

In Encinitas, CA, a man suspected of shooting two deputies Feb. 20 before apparently dying of a self-inflicted gunshot wound was deemed to be suicidal during a psychiatric evaluation in December, according to San Diego Sheriff’s Captain Duncan Fraser.

Evan Kim Tian Kwik, 22, is accused of using a 12-gauge shotgun to shoot two deputies from an attic crawlspace , prompting a 10-hour standoff. Officials said Kwik's mother, Michelle Kwik, reported he was upset that she filed a restraining order against him.

Law enforcement officials have not yet said how Kwik came into possession of the shotgun.

And an international manhunt for suspected murderer Christopher Dorner was triggered when the disgraced former LAPD officer went on a rampage of revenge killings throughout Southern California starting in early February.

Dorner died of a self-inflicted gunshot to the head, according to the autopsy report, after a shootout with police that resulted in the burning of the snowbound cabin in which he was holed up.

Dorner was armed with multiple powerful weapons, including an assault rifle.

A recent Gallup Poll shows a majority of Americans favor the nine key proposals made by President Barack Obama to address gun violence. Poll results show:

  • 91 percent of Americans are most likely to be in favor of requiring background checks for all gun sales
  • 82 percent want increased funding for mental health programs aimed at youth
  • 79 percent want increased funding for programs to train law enforcement and schools in responding to active armed attacks
  • And 75 percent want to increase criminal penalties for people who buy guns for others—so-called straw purchasers.

Are Carmichael and Fair Oaks safe from this kind of gun violence? Do you support the Obama plan? What kind of gun control would make a difference? Tell us in comments.

Randy Hood March 4, 2013 at 02:04 am
Certainly nationwide background checks are needed. No one should be permitted to purchase a weapon without undergoing a check. However, lawbreakers will always get a weapon somehow someway. They don't need any background check to get their weapons. Law enforcement cannot be everything everyone would like them to be. Guns in the hands of criminals will always be a problem that is impossible to stop. It is a certainty on many occasions peace officers have made worthwhile attempts to remove weapons from the hands of those they observe as someone who has no business possessing one, but the many laws that protect the criminal - not the victim - have prevented what should be done. Consequently, lawmakers making attempts to take weapons away from lawabiding citizens is certainly an inexcuseable travesty on our Constitution and what makes us Americans.
Kirsten Ruiz March 4, 2013 at 04:14 pm
Ok. Being an ardent gun hater, even as toys for children and especially in the ultra violent world of computer games such as Call of Duty, etc., I do still believe in the right of citizens to bear arms. I would, however, like someone to explain to me why ANYONE OUTSIDE OF A COMBAT ZONE IN THE THROWS OF WAR NEEDS AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON. I am sure that hunters do not use these to hunt with as I am also sure there would be nothing left of the game to eat if it was shot multiple times, like some of the tiny victims in at Sandy Hook Elementary. Why doesn’t someone create legislation to stop the sale of automatic weapons/magazines. I do not believe that would be a violation of Constitutional rights, would it? I am here to say, show me a “citizen” who needs an automatic weapon and I will show you a killer.
Paul Ruggeri March 4, 2013 at 09:05 pm
The Sandy Hook shooter used a semiautomatic rifle, not an automatic weapon.
John Phillips March 5, 2013 at 12:09 am
Automatic weapons are not in the general public.
Two reasons people have guns: 1. They feel safer. 2. They want to. Why do people have cars that can go faster than 75? Why do people have cars faster than a 68 VW Bus? All riles killed less than 400 of about 7000 gun murders in 2010 Of the 400 the vast majority would not have been effected by any law under discussion. We talk about background checks but that assumes that there is a computer system with good quality information about everyone who should not be able to get a gun. Far from reality. Do you want a national database with all kinds of hear say evidence or guesses like they may be violent? Do you want to be put in that database with no way to contest the data. The cheapest way out is to have the national credit scoring companies add a new field to their database. After all we are almost all in there anyway. Did you see the 60 minutes program about credit scoring accuracy and how easy it was to get anything changed. 10% of all accounts had an error and 5% were serious errors, about the only way to get errors changed was to take them to court. If the government was running the database it would be worse.
John Phillips March 5, 2013 at 12:44 am
If you really want to save live you have to look where lives are lost 300 to 400 rifle murders a year is heartbreaking but that small compared t auto accidents.
We could have cars that would read the drivers thumb print and drivers license for a match to start the car. No car theft or car jacking. The cars computer could make sure the car was driven smoothly, did not exceed the speed limit, make sure all turns were legal and keep an appropriate distance from the car in front. The driver could be warned and if that did not fix the situation the car could call a violation in which would add points the the drivers license and make a debit charge from their bank. It there were not sufficient funds in the bank or if the insurance was not paid up the car would not start. Erratic driving could be amused to be a DUI. Such a system would reduce accident and traffic enforcement costs more than the system would cost and save about 20,000 lives a year. If your car did not check in with DMV for an extended period of time its registration would be suspended. Your insurance co would know how many miles you were driving and adjust your rates accordingly. They could also see were you went and how fast you accelerate and brake as other data points to change your rates. Intersections could have automatic plate readers to identify any cars moving that had not checked in with DMV first. DMV would send a code to match the vin / DL month so the computer could control the engine. No code no start.
John Phillips March 5, 2013 at 01:09 am
Do you rally think that our government is capable of flagging 5 of the next 10 mass shooters without spending $500,000,000 and flagging 1,000,000 false positives?
If they did flag all 10 how many of them would not be able to get a gun? Only the ones that are locked up on some other charge. Oh wait if they were locked up the could not be one of the ten. Even if there were no guns gasoline bombs and a knife could kill more.
John Phillips March 5, 2013 at 01:15 am
Do not get me wrong, I do not want to have a gun. I just want everyone else to have a gun so the bad guys have a harder time being bad. I think I would rather be killed than to kill some you threatening me. But you never know until something like that happens. The gun laws about not keeping your gun loaded and keeping stuff locked up in different places have almost disarmed us anyway. Just wait for the day when the cops have to keep their guns in the trunk and their bullets in their pockets.
John Phillips March 5, 2013 at 01:57 am
Of all the people who want changes about gun how many are willing to pay what it would really cost?
I want a few tons of gold but I am not willing to pay for it. If you ask me if I wanted a few tons of gold I would say yes.would you be willing to pay your fair share to have me a few tons of gold?
chuck mensch March 5, 2013 at 03:24 am
Kristen,
(1) these are NOT "automatic" weapons that are being discussed. (2) you really need to read The Constitution! you are currently allowed to post/express your opinion, under the protection of the First Amendment. when the constitution was written, "common" citizens, had the same, (and some better) firearms, as the military possessed. the second amendment, was put in the bill of rights to PROTECT, the first amendment, and all following amendments. it would be rather difficult to protect your freedom of "opinion, with a musket, against a machinegun.
chuck mensch March 5, 2013 at 03:40 am
FO/CARMICHAEL patch! you noted a few illegal, and tragic uses of a firearm, by a criminal, but failed to note ANY! uses of a fiream, in self protection, or protection of others, in a legal manner. it seems obvious that there is a bias, in the reporting of this outlet.
Kirsten Ruiz March 5, 2013 at 03:16 pm
chuck,
you need to read, its Kirsten, not Kristen, my point was that I think automatic (and apparently "semi-automatic" weapons) need to be considered as part of the problem, I still can't see why anyone needs any type of "automatic" weapon... and Paul, excuse the misuse of "automatic" and "semi automatic"...the knowledge I have of guns would fit on the head of a pin. I like some of the traffic ideas noted by John but I think even you know how financially "un"feasible that is in this state for sure. but good ideas anyway.

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